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MOON Knight Vs. THe Question how will win this time weapon or kung fu style combat .
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I dunno...Moon Knight has strength and sheer brutality on his hand, but The Question is more of a 'finesse' fighter, and he's probably smarter.
Too close to call, I think.
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I think Moon Knight has the edge. But I'd also love to see them team up.
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It took me a few minutes, but I decided to go with Moon Knight for this one. I was of two minds on this -- Vic was trained by Richard Dragon and Marc was a merc and self-trained for the most part so one would think Vic would come out on top *BUT* I decided to go with how they're generally depicted in the comics and MK (aside from having weapons) seems to have more moves (acrobatically speaking) and is generally a physical character, taking on super-type threats. Vic usually takes on street level types and doesn't seem to fair too well against super-types. His skills have also wavered through the years, from being little more than a thug in his series (when he lost focus) to taking on an army of gunmen in his latest series, then having big trouble with the super thug in "52".
I could see it going either way depending on the writing, but more times than not, I would pick Moon Knight as the victor (no pun intended)
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NoFaceGuy has really summed up how I feel about it. Although, with The Questions new found abilities to connect with the very City around him, I think it's possible it could go either way. like others have said, it really depends who writes it.
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I've been a big fan of both characters for years. I even dressed as Moon Knight for Halloween once when I was a kid. If I had to choose only one as a favorite, then the nod goes to The Question. In a knock-down, drag out, no holds barred fist fight, however, I'm afraid it has to be Moon Knight. He's a brutal fighter and despite Vic's ample skills, I think Specter would just wear him down. It would be one for the record books, though, I guarantee that.
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For this no win thing i made this Wallpaper.

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Damn, did I knock the dust off of this thread.
First of all, both characters are great and both of their collective publications really pushed the comic book genre to its limits years before either Watchmen or The Dark Knight Returns were even pitched. Secondly, yes, I'd rather have them team up than fight since they have so much in common. Things such as:
-high fighting ability (always going for the one-hit KO)
-similar crimefighting methods (get case info then whup some ass)
-guided by mystical forces (O'Neil's Zen teachings and Veitch's urban shamanism for Q?, Khonshu for MK)
-an extreme thirst for justice (both will kill, but rarely do)
-severe case of identity crisis (the O'Neil Q? does, anyway)
I think if it's a hand-to-hand battle, The Question would take it. He probably wouldn't dominate, but he'd take advantage of a mistake that MK made and get the win. Q? just has too much discipline and training, and MK is too reliant on his muscle and ferocity.
If weapons get involved....it's all Moon Knight. I don't think I even need to explain why. He's flown airships into buildings for Christ's sakes. Q? would have to use the binary gas to try and disorient MK, but even then I'm not sure what he's gonna do unless he COMPLETELY disarms him (which would take a few hours).
I do agree with Flash in saying that if it was strictly "urban shaman" Q? vs MK, then yea, Q? no matter what.
I really doubt that either one would have to use extreme measures during the fight, since this is a pretty even match. Like, I don't see MK throwing a dart at an unarmed Q? unless he gets really desperate. Neither one has super-strength or heat vision or anything, so they can really keep it street.
When it comes down to it, I'd think they'd have too much respect for each other to really have much of a knockdown, drag-out brawl.
Yea, this post is waaaaay too long. I've been watching Deadliest Warrior on SpikeTV and keep thinking it's real.
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hmmmm... valid points from all.
There is the question of which Q and which MK. Really in almost every incarnation of either I think it has to come down to who makes the first mistake. Cause I think it's be all over for the other one.
My son came home from work (he works for the TSA) and I was informed that in a Batman vs. argument the answer is always Batman, even if it's vs. Chuck Norris.
*sniff* he makes me so proud *sniff*
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Where Moony is driven by rage, dedication to his god, and a taste of sociopathy, Q is driven by curiosity, intellectual and physical discipline, and a quest for justice.
While on the surface they do look fairly similar, they are really quite different. I think Q's discipline and smarts would give him a leg up on Moony's undisciplined emotion, Moony has WAY too many toys for it to be anywhere near a fair fight. In the second volume of the current run, Midnight Man II was VAPORISED by that moon copter thingy.
Methinks that Moon Kinight would pummel Q until, finally, he would throw a single perfectly placed blow that would put moony down, and wax him philosophical into a straight jacket.
Q, piece of advice. "Sweep the leg"
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nobody wrote:
Where Moony is driven by rage, dedication to his god, and a taste of sociopathy, Q is driven by curiosity, intellectual and physical discipline, and a quest for justice.
While on the surface they do look fairly similar, they are really quite different. I think Q's discipline and smarts would give him a leg up on Moony's undisciplined emotion, Moony has WAY too many toys for it to be anywhere near a fair fight. In the second volume of the current run, Midnight Man II was VAPORISED by that moon copter thingy.
Methinks that Moon Kinight would pummel Q until, finally, he would throw a single perfectly placed blow that would put moony down, and wax him philosophical into a straight jacket.
Q, piece of advice. "Sweep the leg"
...Ok valid points... except that I'm not entirely sure that MK and Khonshu are on the outs right now... so the dedication to god is out... the rage is definitively valid... MK's smart too... he is the MU's Batman analog... and do you have "a taste of sociopathy" if you are in fact a sociopath?
MK, like Q and Bats, also has alot of physical discipline.
I'll give you the toys.
I still think it comes down to who makes the first mistake.
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I think the Q? would talk him down. That always seemed to me to be the best way for the Question to win a fight: with his mind. I had this whole fight between the Q? and Matt Wagner's Grendel worked out in my head, Grendel obviously floors the Q? in terms of fighting ability (though the Q? does give him a tougher fight that usual), it's when Vic starts talking and getting him doubting himself that the advantage shifts.
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I love Vic and all, but I think he'd be in serious, *serious* trouble against Hunter Rose. And Grendel would be the *last* person to doubt himself! Vic's clever, but I don't see him as being that manipulative.
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Now, see, I see Hunter as actually being quite pitiful. Or, at least, a more interesting version of the character would be if, instead of focusing on how incredibly cool Grendel is we focused on the very deeply routed psychological problems he has. Honestly, Rose makes Batman look like the posterboy of mental health: his whole sense of self worth is essentially derived from his experiences being molested by female pedophile. I know Wagner probably intended for Hunter's relationship with what's-her-name to show how precocious he was, but seriously, there is something deeply, deeply wrong with a fully grown woman who sleeps with a thirteen year old boy. The fact that her perspective on life and her death is what convinces Hunter to become Grendel is actually a huge weakness in my opinion, if Vic could convince Hunter that he had based his entire life on self-delusion then he'd have a massive psychological upperhand. He could basically break Grendel's view of the world and himself, and this would be made all the worse by the fact that it's being pointed out by a man who Grendel would likely consider to be less than an insect. Granted, Vic would only survive the experience by the skin of his teeth at best, but I think it would be an interesting "fight".
Plus, I see Vic as being capable of Batman-esque "prep time", not so much in the "I've got Kryptonite just in case Superman goes nuts" way as in a more psychological, "here's a mirror in which you can see what's wrong with you" way.
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that will be a swell brawl if someone make it happen for real
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Yea, if Sage can mind-humble Rose like he did The Mikado and The Riddler, then the ball's totally in his court. If he points out that Rose needed A TON of help to get to where he is, and that the only time he took on anyone who had any real skill (Batman), he got his arm broken and went back home (Argent, while skilled, still relies more on brute force).
Plus, if Sage can bring up the fact that he, a C-level street vigillante, kept Chicago clean, once saved Metropolis and kept Hub City from becoming a complete Hell on Earth pretty much BY HIMSELF, then that that would come very close to sending Grendel over the edge. How damaged Sage gets in the process...well, that depends on a lot as well. Both Rose and Sage typically go up against thugs who aren't really on their mental and physical level. But yea, like the Moon Knight fight, if Sage can get Rose's fork away from him or force him to fight without it, then he'd probably take the fight. Otherwise, he's gonna be in mas trouble.
Then again, all Sage has to do is say the name "Stacy" during the fight...that would throw quite the monkey wrench in Grendel's gameplan.
I agree that Sage would probably take advantage of mental prep time more than Rose: Sage is just a bug to him, so he's not worth THAT much study.
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Although, on the other hand, Grendel nearly guts the little Demon-thing in his most recent series for almost saying the chick's name. So using her could back fire on Vic horribly. Although, there's always the possibility that Hunter fights worse when he's angry, and loses the spectacular agility that makes him so dangerous.
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